Palin calls critics among McCain aides 'jerks'

"Palinism"  definition: 1. phrases, words, sentences, that "don't come out right"  2. words that are "twisted" by the listeners  3. you misheard - you jerks

LOL Sarah- CONTEXT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.  It was not classy of the McCain aides to reveal the truth, but if you haven't noticed, Sarah, whether Africa is a continent or a country and who is a member of NAFTA are both things that DON"T CHANGE no matter what the context.  Africa is always a continent, not a country...

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle?  Lipstick.

Rex-716417,

Who said what?? I've not heard one accuser's name given. Hell, anonymous sources could easily be Democratic 'hatchetmen' run amuck!!! Give us a verifiable source and let's hear McCain back it up!

Otherwise, you're simply promoting gossip. Like when hens cackle!!!

As I already said, not classy of the McCain aides to do what they did - not defending them for sure.  I'm not promoting anything, just pointing out that Palin's defense only confirms the truth behind the stories.

And it's clearly not "democratic hatchetmen" - as much as you might want to attribute it to a left-wing conspiracy, Palin herself admits the discussions at issue, which "democratic hatchetmen" wouldn't be privy to - only Republican insiders to blame here - sorry to disappoint you.  And the fact that she doesn't deny the points, just tries to hide behind the excuse of context, only brings us back to my point - none of these things are dependent on context.  Where does that leave you now, Sarah?

Hell, anonymous sources could easily be Democratic 'hatchetmen' run amuck!!!

lol To what end? We have won the election. And honestly, after the resounding rebuke of the McCain/Palin ticket in the form of votes, there isn't a democrat alive that isn't praying for her to run in 2012. lol

Just wondering, has Sen. McCain made any comments about the campaign rifts?

actually (my thoughts) if O can run without a certified birth cert and proof that he is really an American born citizen I think since the rules have changed now that in 2012 the Repeublicans can send in the TERMINATOR....yes we can...yes we can...yes we can....go Arnold!

McCain is a class act (until some of this campaign) .. and now will go back to being a well respected and class act again  - he did comment - he said that he abhors any allegations - he would not and should not address this issue directly as he was not there .. but he deplores leaks... as I said .. a class ACT... that said.. I did not vote for him -  but would have in 2000 if he had been the candidate..  he lost me when he put her a heartbeat away .. as he lost many of us.

Why is this birth certificate nonsense still going on.. he WAS BORN in Hawaii.. do you really think the state faked all the records 48 years ago knowing he would run for President someday? Being born in the US makes you a citizen.. period... but the facts are he was also born in the USA to an American mother!

Thanks for the info, Bob.  I hadn't heard anything one way or the other.  I agree with you that Sen. McCain is a class act, and it was reflected in his concession speech.  I'm still pondering why the RNC thought Palin was a good choice.

The RNC didn't like her for the ticket, only the far consertive did. McCain chose her only after two hours talking to her and never had her vetted. At lest from what I have heard. He liked her and thought she would bring people to hear him. He used her. The one thing he didn't figure on is the new tec. world where you can look up things on a person. Her husband belonging to the Independence Party up there that advocates secesion from the United Syayes from 1995 to 202 when she ran for mayor. She even talked at one of their conventions, and had them in her home. The leaks in the Alaska pipe line,which is in very bad need of repair. Rusting out damaging the tundra. Yes she fought them but for money not repair of the pipe line.Aldulty,several years ago. News is in the Alaska Pipe Line books facts. The other is in the Anchorage Daily News. Also her extended family gave a lot of bad news about her. It is McCains fault for having her. I pray she will wake up and do what is right for Alaska now. Obama and the news never put out any of that information even when she was taking nasty swings at him.But she is the one that is carrying this on and we need to forget her and the election and get together to help our new president get our country strightened out. If you can't take the heat then don't go in for politics. Look at what H. Clinton tok ans well as sent. Yet when she was defeted, she came out positive, and will go on working for our country I respect her. Palin needs to be positive now and work for the State she is ahead of now and not for money in her pocket. enough said. This is from a 79 year old woman. I know Ill never see a woman president, but sure would love to. Get behind Obama and raise our country above the politics and stringten it out in the world also.

Beane, will you please do your research?  The birth certificate WAS found and WAS found to be LEGITIMATE.   You're beating a DEAD HORSE!

Obama is definitely an Americn citizen.  Will these republicans ever stop beating a dead horse.  If Obama was white his citizenship would never have come into play. 

rex--does Joe Biden know "jobs" has 4 letters, not 3?  I guess his hair-plugs went too deep in his pea-sized brain and scrambled what his A-V malformation didn't!   Enough of HATE.  It is certainly easier to kick a horse when it's down, isn't it.  At least she has the guts to defend herself. 

Bob, I agree about McCain - he conducts himself with class and kudos to him for vetoing the use of various 'low road' tactics, having the courage to correct the lady with the 'Muslim' comment, etc.  I think the campaign did get away from him here and there but I think that was more the doing of others, with him being the voice of reason that pulled them back when things got out of hand.  I have lots of respect for the man. 

Mary, you hit it right on the head.  Time for all of us to be positive, unite around our new president, and change things all together, little by little, everyday.

Well chop, you just spewed hate on Biden instead of heeding your own words about ending hate.  And I wasn't even talking about Biden so i'm not sure why you even brought him up.

How about actually trying to answer the point I raised about Palin's "context" defense and why it doesn't work?  That would be actual substantive discourse.

If you really believe in ending the hate, how about doing as Mary says, and working towards unity and bringing about positive change?

Rex--My comments are NOT filled with the venom YOU people have.  I did not vote for Obama because he is not experienced enough (in my view).  This election is over, everyone has hopefully moved on. Why does the need to kick the wounded have to be there?   She has other problems than to worry about some "anonymous" staffer bashing her. 

What experience in foreign policy did George W. Bush have or Bill Clinton for that matter!!!!! Will you people get over it. He had enough leadership ability to bring together a huge portion of the country. And he has enough leadership ability to bring in people who are as smart or smarter than him who can advise him. That is what advisors do. They fill in where you are not as strong. A leader is someone who recognizes weaknesses or PERCEIVED weaknesses in his or her own self and surrounds him or herself with those who have those strengths. This is what made him a better choice. I have always liked and respected John McCain, but when he chose Sarah from Alaska, I thought he was just like all other nonleaders--pick people less intelligent and experienced than yourself so they don't take your job.  I am impressed with Obama and his campaign staff for the organization and skill they had during this ordeal. They showed that they made wise choices and laid great plans that were followed. I cannot wait to see how he and his staff bring this strength to the White House--no more shooting from the hip, but planning and executing. That brings great respect from the other world leaders and world citizens. For once, maybe we can calm some of those around the world who hate us by showing that yes, we believe in human rights and we practice equality daily.

Chop, here are your own words:

"I guess his hair-plugs went too deep in his pea-sized brain and scrambled what his A-V malformation didn't!   Enough of HATE. "

So, your references to hair plugs, pea-sized brain and malformation don't count as venom?  You don't see how you contradicted your very own words about 'enough of hate'?  For real?  Okay, then my work is done here.

And again, you didn't address my substantive point... gee, I wonder why.  It's easier to just change the subject and talk about how you despise those who kicked the wounded - good for you - may I remind you, they are Republicans from McCain's own camp, who no one is defending anyway.  Is that what you meant by 'YOU people'?

Ok, I am moving on.

To all of you fighting over if Biden has a brain left after his TWO brain anurheism surgeries......Good question??? 

You fight about Sarah not knowing that Africa is a continent....WHO CARES!!!  Obama thinks that the United States of American has 59 states.   So, if he thinks he is going to balance the budget by x's 59.....obama is sadely mistakening. 

But I to would love to see him produce all his records for the American people to see.  Even Kadafee over in Libiya is calling him "Our Kenyan Muslim Brother."  Russia congradulated him by saying "Were putting missiles on the border of Poland."  Hammas moved troops onto the border of Syria....ready to strike Israel.  Yeah!  Joe Biden was right.....but it won't be six months.  

Beanne,

To be blunt, you sir are a moron.  President Elect Obama has released his Birth Certificate and anyone who wants to see it can.  He was born in Hawaii which is a part of the United States.  Do you really believe that a little thing like where a person was born could be covered up?  Do you realize the vast conspiracy that would require?  All it would take is one person looking to become famous to break a story like that.  This is what I mean by you being a moron.  You allow your bias and hatred to obscure obvious facts while ignoring the absurdity of the idea that a presidential candidate could possibly get away with concealing where he was born in this day and age.

Both candidates did release their medical records.  It was actually McCain who was being secretive and evasive by only releasing a small amount of information and limiting the time that the press had to review it.

"A President is in a sence (sense) owned by the citizens of the land."  Wow, what an incredibly stupid statement!

What I really wish people like you would do is just be honest.  Why don't you just admit that you don't like President Elect Obama because he is black and for no other reason?  I for one prefer openly racist people to cowards like you who pretend to be fair and objective.

Beanne,  A preisdent is president 24 hourse a day.  When Clinton was doing Monica in the Oval Office, people said, "Oh Well, what he does on his own time doesn't matter."  It sure does matter to me & a whole lot of Americans. 

Why does Obama have 20 law suits againts him about his records?  The company that said the birth certicate was real was in "Conflict of Interest", due to fact the Obama sat on their board in Chicago & handed out money to companies such as Acorn.  This guy has got sooooooooo many skeletons in the closet.  ha ha ha!!!     

To “just say no to obama”, “beanne”, “chop007”,  “R.Crockett”, and any other Palin Defenders: 

I realize that your blind hatred of President Elect Obama clouds your ability to reason, but let’s try it anyway.  What all of you don’t seem to have the ability to understand is that there is a huge difference between a “slip of the tongue” or “mistake” and a demonstrable lack of knowledge.  Everyone misspeaks on occasion, including Palin, McCain, Biden, and Obama.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with their positions, it is clear that all the candidates except Palin are knowledgeable about foreign affairs, government, history, etc.  Obama graduated from Harvard Law and was President of the Harvard Law Review.  He obviously knows how many states there are and Biden obviously knows that “jobs” has four letters.  These are called mistakes.  You are obviously reaching for anything to justify and explain McCain’s selection of an absolute moron to be his running mate.  Palin did not simple misspeak. 

Just off the top of my head, these are a few things that can be attributed to Palin:

1.  She could not give a remotely coherent interview and subsequently was sheltered from the press.

2.  She tried to argue that Alaska’s proximity to Russia constituted foreign policy experience.

3.  She could not articulate the responsibilities of a Vice President.

4.  She did not understand many of the questions during the debate, so she ignored them.

These are not mistakes or the product of a “biased media”.  They demonstrate a clear lack of knowledge.

DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

jdg96    What I see is a preident elect that has clouds of suspecion over him.  I see letters of congradulations from Iran.  I see Libyia calling him "Their Kenyan Muslim brother".    Russia has sent him a letter of congradulations & said "Watch this!"  They just put missiIes on the border of Poland.  Hammas has moved troops onto the border of Syria....to strike Israel.  These foreign power's KNOW that this country is divided & weak now.  We've got a president that is a dove, instead of a hawk. 

l hear all this chatter about his records that he won't let us see.  I hear stories that he is gay & had his gay lover killed.  Let a lone what he wants to do to our Constitional Rights.  This guy is scarey, scarey, scarey.   

What a freakin' idiot you are!  Now he's accountable for the reactions of other world leaders?  Had his gay lover killed - REALLY???  WOW!!!

By the way, it's called spellcheck, but that won't help you with all the grammatical errors in your post.  Maybe you should read a book now and then?

jdg96   Why do you just excuse all these rumors or law suits surrounding Obama?  You said that I hated hime.  I never said that.  I just would like to have all these questions answered.  If they were answered, we could all start working together.  Instead of all this mud slinging.  But when someone like me even dare to ask a question....you go all postal.  What's the deal????      

 I hear stories that he is gay & had his gay lover killed.

Good point. We should quit the mudslinging.

R.Crockett,

OK - so you want "all these questions answered"?  Perhaps if you read more or educated yourself in some other way you be able to distinguish between real "questions" and absurd and vicious rumors spread by those with clear agendas.

To answer one of your "questions":

"Why do you just excuse all these rumors or law suits surrounding Obama?"

Answer - I tend to pay more attention to factual reports than "rumors" and it is common knowledge that public people tend to attract law suits.  I believe Palin attracted a few of her own.

To answer another one of your "questions":

Did Barack Obama have his gay lover killed?

Answer - No, that's just ridiculous.  Something like that would require a vastly implausible conspiracy among countless people.

I'm just curious, do you have any "questions" about John McCain?  I heard that he was an alien from a planet in the Andromeda galaxy sent here as a spy in preparation for the alien take over.  Can you prove he isn't?

See how easy it is to make up absurd stories and feed them to gullible?

Actually, I am from Andromeda.  And after reading this string of comments I have decided to go back.

PS I am not taking McCain with me, we did not vote for him there either.

beanne,

fact check (funded by the Annenburg Foundation; a CONSERVATVE organization) and two other unbiased organizations have reviewed the birth cetificate nonsense and found that there is no foundation for this claim.  When you keep beating this dead horse you just make yourself sound stupid.  Give it up.

Peace

j

We can"t forget that Fidel Castro is a big Obama supporter too.

BTW, am I still paying his aunt's rent?  I'm not a multimillion dollar seller of motivational self-help books like our new president is.  Maybe he should take care of his own.  In his acceptance speech he talked abourt his redistribution ideology.  (Wall Street, Main Street comments and "We must all work harder to support our (non-working) neighbor")  Could he share the wealth with his aunt, so I don't have to keep supporting her?

Beane.. you have a right to anything you want to believe.. HOWEVER..  there is no sealed record.. there was a dismisal in each court of the lawsuits  contesting his birth certificate .. one judge in his ruling  called the allegations  (and I paraphrase) RIDICULOUS ... the state of Hawaii has confirmed the accuracy of the birth certificate on file .. and they have confirmed his being born in Hawaii, as has the hospital that processed the paperwork  ... Now you can ask to see the original.. get on a plane - fly to Hawaii and look -  but I think you are no birth certificate expert..   and probably the most compelling piece of evidence of all is that NO ONE outside the lunatic fringe has even brought this up.. why? BECAUSE HE IS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN....  I can allege you are NOT a citizen.. I can file a lawsuit  and claim your birth certificate is a fake... can you prove to me you are a citizen??? I know for a fact that your (chose a relative in the country your ancestors are from ) were NOT citizens and you are covering this up with a fake birth certificate !  Well I choose not to believe your proof... get it now:?

wow...LOL  I did not realize how much people had to say about this topic.  I am a republician or republicrat and I am actually embarrased by what some of the McCain/Palin supporters are saying here.  I think they must be saying it for one of two reasons.  A. They are sore losers or B. They are scared.  Sure I didn't vote for Obama and I really don't like him.  But the votes were cast and he won.  So instead of trying to rip each other apart over who did what, and shoulda, coulda, woulda.  Support the man.  I may not respect Obama but I do respect the position he will be holding when he takes oath.  I also recognize the fact that he is human and going to make mistakes.  I also think that with all the power the Dems have on Capital hill they will either make some great changes, or they will fall into the political traps and show the world they are no different than republicians.  Either way I am looking at this as a win/win.  That sure beats sitting here on my lap top showing everyone that I am a middle aged cry baby...LOL.  OH here is one thing about Obama's birth certificate.  Yes it can be forged, yes it can be falsly certified...  BUT ... there is no way it could get it past the secret service that does the rubber glove back ground check.  Sorry he is as American as this disabled veteran republican. 

Rex-716417

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle?  Lipstick.

That is not fair, Quayle is otherwise intelligent but misspelled one word in front of a lot of people, Palin made an idiot of herself repeatedly on TV. Plus, there is no proof Quayle never wore lipstick.

Sarah was taken out of context when McCain chose her period.

She was whisked out of nowhere so now that she's back home they ought to just let her keep the clothes . They obviously fit her well. She should just claim the gifts on her taxes. Fox News is even talking bad about her. I'm thinking the GOP realizes what a huge mistake they made in choosing her. Now, they want to make sure she stays in Alaska and not try running in 2012. She's not ready and wouldn't be by then either. I am so happy Obama won by a landslide. I feel like we all took our country back. I just wish the rules could be changed and GWB go back to Texas ASAP- before he screws up more stuff. Please don't let them go uranium mining in the Grand Canyon. It'll poison the Colorado River and everyone's drinking water out west.

Obama was taken out of nowhere. At least Palin was in a crucial piece of real estate if we ever had to depend on domestic oil in a national emergency.

Kat, that was great! But I doubt there is enough cheese in the world to satisfy her penchant for whinning....that voice of hers drives me nuts.  This idiot has absolutely no intelligence nor any common sense, and it only makes you wonder what kind of people voted her in office in Alaska.  No, wait a minute, it's the same people who voted for the convicted felon awaiting sentencing (Stevens) for another term as their Senator.  What a joke!

rena

Plus Americans are consuming 27% of the Worlds oil supply...and we only produce 3%

of the oil including Alaska.

Again on the oil thing.  We need to drill, period. 

There is enough oil in the world to last another hundred years.  Some say more.  Regardless of how much there is - nobody says it is unlimited.  So eventually we will run out of it.  It is therefore unthinkable that we do not find alternative sources of energy.  However, to not use the oil reserves we have would be ignorant.  We can get this oil in an environmentally responsible manner.  We can also develop those new sources of energy for the future. 

This is a ridiculous debate.  The fact that we have not been doing so is inexcusable.  It is in our national best interest to drill.

Okay, we drill...cool. Where do we refine it ? Our refineries are acting at or above capacity now.  And as a matter of fact, our refinery's well-being have more to do with gas prices than the cost of oil. (For evidence, look at the spike of gas prices after the two hurricanes this year.)

So as long as we discuss and argue and don't pressure, I mean real pressure, like a landlord does for the rent, phone company for its money, the politicians to find alternative sources, decrease our need for oil and plastics, build refineries, drill safely, it will stay the same as it has for 30 years. We've known all this, nothing is new, and big oil has controlled the government policies.  I still know people paying over $7 a gallon for heating fuel, less than 100 miles from the oil rigs. Yet 25 years ago I drove thru Canada, past refineries, and paid a very high price for gas. It's all about educate, vote, stay on them, hold them accountable. We at least have an administration poised to do so. But we all have to help.

we will get it refined.  This will also create more jobs.  It will also create revenue for the country.  We can start to refine our own oil reducing our dependancy on others for a start. 

WQ, without building more refineries how do you propose to do this ? The refineries are running at or above capacity as it is. 

Do those who talk about refining understand that YOU CAN NOT get it refined.. a great sentiment - but it takes many (up to 10) years to build a refinery - where are you getting this refined WQ ...  this is not "I say it can be done - so there" .. this is reality ..  we should have learned from the gas shortages of the late 70's and early 80's:
"those who do not learn the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them"

NOW is the time to actually put the money into new renewable sources.. not to throw good money after bad on a losing and depleted source!

On a final note... please remember that oil was flowing from Alaska long before Sarah Palin was born.. AND that despite the rhetoric.. the "new" pipeline she touted so strongly,  has not had 1 shovel of dirt started yet .. again we are years away!

Bob,

More than years if the Sierra Club has it's way...same with the refineries.

for starters we refine more of our own oil and less of others.  That helps to reduce our dependancy on other sources.  Then we also start to build new refineries.  Who says it takes 10 years to build one?  You can build a refinery in a lot less time than 10 years.  But first you have to start it.

I agree that we need other energy sources.  But that is a long term solution as well.  So using your argument about refineries then I guess we should not even try any other energy sources - they will just take too long to get to.  We are a lot of years away from having enough alternative energy so that we do not need oil any longer.

Ethanol is certainly not an replacement fuel -it takes three gallons of water to make one gallon of ethanol.  I think our resource of water for us to drink is a little more important than driving a car.

Can't put a windmill on top of a car.  Solar energy for cars are a long way off.  Electrical cars are getting much better as are natural gas cars.  However, both of these cars are years off as we need infrastructure to allow for them to be used in our everyday lives.

So we should be drilling right now and stop continuing the error of not drilling that we have made for many years now. 

By the way the alaskan pipeline took only 2 years to build.

Did some checking on refineries too - wanted to make sure the number I had was not some number provided by a conservative drill supporter.  It takes 40 - 45 months to build a refinery.  That is under half of the 10 year number you provided.  Some refineries being built in foreign countries are coming closer to the 36 month period of time.  So obviously we could erect refineries in less than 10 years.

it takes about 4-5 years to get the regulatory approvals.. before you start building..  that is unless legislation and epa protocols are suspended.. and no one has even tried to get that done yet.. not a whisper.. not a peep .. just pure rhetoric.. as the Sgt said above.. and that is before the sierra club or anyone starts! .. check your numbers again taking into account all the existing factors. AND .. who is building these refineries? the oil companies have NO desire to do so .. they control the pipeline now! All rhetoric with the drill drill drill.. nothing to help us out in the near future.. regretfully!

As to the pipeline.. we are talking about private vs public here.. when have you ever seen a public project take only 2 years ..  and again.. that was AFTER how many years of getting right of way and regulatory approval?

On a last note... just like the talk about suspending the gas tax... rhetoric is just that .. it was all talk.. no one put one bill before congress to even try...  this is much like that issue.. until someone steps up to the plate.. we have not even begun to start...   that is the real truth ... like the bailout helped the homeowners? same thing.. not one homeowner.. but the banks are on an aquisition hunt with the money we thought was going to free up credit markets and help the guy going into foreclosure..  so as far as I can tell.. this drill drill etc is just that .. rhetoric...

so the people that want the drill issue to be rhetoric have the ability to tie up the process in legislative hearings so that the refineries never get built and the pipeline never gets erected.  Which just further proves the point that our problem is our government.  They are creating our problems through bad decisions and needless red-tape.  We need less of them not more of them. 

The government could have their act together in a very short time period.  Or they could drag it out and just say to drill would take 20 years, and then they could make it so simply by dragging out the process.

Drilling is not rhetoric it is a big part of the solution.  To ignore it is negligent. 

I think you are wrong.  I think that drilling can provide a short term shot in the arm on many fronts, including jobs which would actually be something that did benefit middle america.  Of course I understand that government could drag this out if they wanted to.  But why would they want to?  Why would they not want to get this going on a fast track.  They have control of the time-line and could certainly clear the path to this if they were so inclined to do so.

I agree with you on the bailout - has not helped one single homeowners and the lenders are simply hoarding the cash they have been given.  Bad business people caused the problem and those same people with more cash is not going to make them any smarter or any more ethical.  Bad decision makers go out of business, we should not stop that process.

It amazes me that these big wigs with all their dem and rep friends run their institutions into the ground and then get a bailout.  Well how about a bailout for each person who has watched their social security money get redirected from them.  We never had the money to reimburse that fund for the average american - but boy o boy we have the money to help out Biff at ABC Global Bank.  It is terrible.

I would certainly agree with you that I am tired of the rhetoric and tired of our government continuing to do what is best for their own individual careers.  As much as I respect McCain he really disappointed in this area too.  He said he was against pork and as president would veto each and every piece of legislation that had pork - yet he voted for the bail out with all its pork.  He routinely said that OBAMA was not qualified to be President and told us how important qualifications and experience are - then he names Palin as his VP.

We will see how we get through all of this.

I'm from Southeast Texas, actually sitting right now about 3 miles from Spindletop, the birthplace of the American oil industry.  And our whole economy here is oil based.  We are now in the process of expaning many of the refineries here, one of which will be the largest in the US when complete.  So, I kinda know what I'm talking about.  And 10 years is about right, based not only on permits, regulations, etc, but don't forget planning.  Most of these projects are in the planning stage for 2 - 5 years before anything is done.  The expansion project I mentioned above is now in it's 5th year, and just now at the end of the first year of actual work being performed.  it is scheduled for another 3 years minimum, not counting if it goes over schedule.  So, that's 8 years, just for an expansion, not a whole new refinery.

And as far as "if we drill here we can refine here and reduce our dependence on forign oil", all oil is palced on the world market for sell to the highest bidder.  There is no difference about where it comes from. 

Well it look's like we got our self a smart one in Joe Biden.    He's a friggen Guinness

compared to Palin?

Yes, Biden is a bigger dumbass than Palin.

TV's in 1929 when FDR was President.

so you admitt she is a dumb ass

Wow the Vice President Elect is actually an Irish Malt beverage!

Well it look's like we got our self a smart one in Joe Biden.    He's a friggen Guinness

Amazing.. when they have nothing positive to say - or germain to the issue discussed  .. they attack the winner...  wonder what party they belong to?  If McCain had won .. most dems and independent voting with the dems this time,  would get behind the country.. Like the concept "MY COUNTRY" has no meaning to some of these posters!

LOL to the malt beverage.. you beat me to that comment! ..

LOL!

"Wow the Vice President Elect is actually an Irish Malt beverage!"

Chapin1980, you made my day!!!! LOL

bob, that is one of the biggest, bold faced untruths I have ever heard. The left constantly trashed The President from the day he won the recount until probably some time in the next decade. And the are still trashing McCain / Palin instead of focusing on the next 4 years. Blink again so you can start a new day.

Not the left rightofcenter .. SOME of the left.. but mainly the media blowing BOTH sides (they sell advertising you know) out of proportion.. and the RIGHT is just as guilty then...

Put blame where it belongs... I hated GWB as president .. but he was my President none the less ... BOTH sides trash each other - but NOT a majority a both sides.. and the media finds that little minority who are so vocal and make it "news" ...

Sorry rightofcenter.. that is the the truth.. my comment I believe was accurate.. and I am referring to the posts above as examples of pure nonsense...

I am focused on the future.. and believe in the AMERICAN people.. ALL of them .. but have pure disdain for the "haters" above! (on both sides)

"Amazing.. when they have nothing positive to say - or germain to the issue discussed  .. they attack the winner...  wonder what party they belong to?  If McCain had won .. most dems and independent voting with the dems this time,  would get behind the country.. Like the concept "MY COUNTRY" has no meaning to some of these posters!"

Are you kidding me Bob!  I wonder what party you belong to?  I don't see you being so magnanimous in your victory.  Why do you continue to attack the woman after she lost?  She has every right to defend herself from false allegations.  How does defending herself make her guilty?  She said it was out of context and unless you have proof otherwise how can you or I say differently?  At least she is coming out legitimately and not hiding behind a vail of anonymity.  And I also like how you and other Obama-ites here gloss over and avoid the question that was presented by others about Obama's and Biden's mistakes in speaking.  Obama's 57 states gaffe and Biden's FDR fire side chats on TV gaffe don't count when we talk about qualifications for president I guess.  Your hypocricy knows no bounds there Bob.

"Amazing.. when they have nothing positive to say - or germain to the issue discussed  .. they attack the winner...  wonder what party they belong to?  If McCain had won .. most dems and independent voting with the dems this time,  would get behind the country.. Like the concept "MY COUNTRY" has no meaning to some of these posters!"

Are you kidding me Bob!  I wonder what party you belong to?  I don't see you being so magnanimous in your victory.  Why do you continue to attack the woman after she lost?  She has every right to defend herself from false allegations.  How does defending herself make her guilty?  She said it was out of context and unless you have proof otherwise how can you or I say differently?  At least she is coming out legitimately and not hiding behind a vail of anonymity.  And I also like how you and other Obama-ites here gloss over and avoid the question that was presented by others about Obama's and Biden's mistakes in speaking.  Obama's 57 states gaffe and Biden's FDR fire side chats on TV gaffe don't count when we talk about qualifications for president I guess.  Your hypocricy knows no bounds there Bob.

You're right.  We need to put this pettiness aside and just support our new president.  Whether he is good for the country or not, we still need to support him.  Who knows he  may turn out to be a great president.  Let's put all this hatred that was created by the McCain campaign aside and let's be friends.  We are all Americans and we should stick together as Americans.  If we all stand together and work with our new government, we can get it to work for all of us and not for just a few.

GOD BLESS AMERICA - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - AND OUR 44TH PRESIDENT

Well it look's like we got our self a smart one in Joe Biden.    He's a friggen Guinness

That's fine. Palin is full of Schlitz.

RNoel, LMAO!   *snort* 

gman,

It's not dems attacking Palin, it is republicans turning on themeselves.

Y'all better get realistic or you are never going to solve the problems that your party has.

Peace

j

Gmman.... My hypocrisy? I think not - perhaps your ignorance of the posts I have made - your assumptions of my interepratation of her comments .. but nowhere does hypocrisy enter my posts  - they are based on her statements and or facts entered into the public record.. not innuendo or myths ...  how about you reading and watching what she said before you miscategorize what I have said ...  then let me know what part of my opinion that she is a true "idiot" on national politics is invalid..   in her quest to prove she was not stupid.. she went and stated that her "stupid" statements are out of contest.. Now lets be clear.. It is not my job to know NAFTA, North America, or AFRICA... but IT IS a job of a national leader to know these things..  and truly SHE is putting herself out in the spotlight... not me... and not you .. and not the media.... has the term NO COMMENT ever had any more relevance than now?

SHE SAID IT .. in or out of context.. that is the issue! and said it again just yesterday!

Many of us in Alaska knew this stuff about Palin when she was trying to get on the ticket. We have seen her in action, and none of this is new to us.  We still have the same kind of people you do. Some support her blindly, others hate her blindly, others are confused, apathetic, and some are just pragmatic, some kinda nuts. We have a group that wants to succeed, because they gave up on the government, a group that wants to impeach her, a group that wants to impeach her, a group that wants her to run next time, a group that wants her to stop embarassing us, and another group, which I tend to support, leave her alone, help her get back to work. Not all of us get to make fools of ourselves on national tv, altho many seem to want to. Most of us make fools of ourselves at one time or another.  Shes a good person, our governor, deserves some respect, admiration for giving it a shot, support in her work, and to be left alone except as pertains to that work.

Did they permantly glue Bidens mouth shut??

JCE... then Sarah needs to learn how to just get on with her life as governor and stop searching for face time with the national media.. if she said "no comment" a few times - they would seek a new story... instead she just keeps on campaigning.. nothing gives more credence to mistakes.. then continually denying them - most politicians on a national scale learn this long before they become the governor of a state!

Most people (me included) would love her to just go back to being governor and stop justifying the mistake of her even accepting a vp run at this stage of her career ... but she is fueling the fires... no one else... so campaign aides talk.. until she verified that talk, with her cockeyed answer - it was just that .. talk!  Never has the term "shut up" had more meaning - and she really needs to understand that is not an insult.. it is advise!

Booo... I think the above comments, now that Bidden is our vp elect (not just another senator)  ... is perhaps germain to why his lips have been glued! - a national leader is a different role .. and the smart learn that quickly! The talking is now done by our Pres elect .. the rest of his team helps him achieve!

Guinness and Schlitz for everyone I say...  ROFL  you guys that picked up on that are friggin awesome!

R Loveland

At least Biden will never open his door to guests in a TOWEL....Sarah is disgustingly

white trash, hillbilly, ignorance....you betcha!...gosh

Wilberta,

You need to get your facts straight and quit repeating malicious gossip!

No the vp elect will be too busy getting his botox and hair plugs to answer the door

Wilberta--You are still as ignorant as you were last week.  Were YOU there when she answered the door?  NOT!!!!  Stop spreading HATE!!!!

"COUNTRY. CONTINENT?" Who would know if they were a product of public schooling, NEA, etc.? Jay Leno found a junior in college that could not name the current Vice President even when he told this person the name!

Amen to that!!! Oh, and by the way, it was Fox News on election night who started to trash her. If I remember correctly Fox News is the one station that is totally republican, isn't it? ;)

Norm of Denver....I loved your comment.  I love Jay Walking.  But, it is sad that the Californiia Public School District is producting idiots like that.  I getting to the point where the right to vote should be taken away from these idiots.  They didn't even know the issues.  All they cared about was Propisition 8. 

I was sad to see Colorado go Dem.  I thought Colorado was a Christian state.  At least we see where "Not to Move". 

Have you looked at the back of Biden's head?  It is apparent he does not have hair-plugs. 

Gee, guess the hair-plug criticism has been taken out of context or is just a fact.

Yeah Lisa,  Back of Biden's head is as shiney as his brown nose!

Not buying it................forgive my skepticism, I do not believe most of what is in print these days. Nor do I believe most political insiders.

I do not believe most of what is in print these days. Nor do I believe most political insiders.

I just believe what Hannity tells me to believe...or Drudge. Whichever.

Who is Hannity? What is Drudge?

chop007 #5.4

you know there is an ignore the author button on the bottom right...fell free to use it

I don't care...then you won't have to be bothered by my Ignorance.

to everyone that is still complaining about what some secret person who doesn't have the balls to come forward and say it to the American people themselves.

You prove the point that you are controlled by the likes of the NBC CNN crowd.

And I have to to the women out there who keep disparaging her, Way to go girls.

I like her { oh no now call me dumb or something else}. I see her as a strong woman who has done allot. Mayor, Governor, possible VP. All you have proved is that you will follow the crowd. Her running said allot about this country as did our soon to be FIRST black President. England hasn't had a black person in power or France! But they are better than us and when the rich travel there they need not be embarrassed any more give me a brake.

So if all the Palin 'gaffes' are  rumors, what do you make of the prank phone call? Was that staged? The fact she didn't know who the Canadian Prime Minister was (who she's been on record as saying she's had many dealings with in her capacity as governor.) Consider that a pop quiz, and she failed. 

No, I don't know who the Prime Minister is either, but I'm not running for president. I'm an IT specialist. and I know what my job entails.  

I understand you're eager to defend your candidate..but denying you made any mistakes in your camp, denying that the political posture is shifting away from the right to the center/left (evidence of the DISMAL republican youth vote by the exit polls) and mistakenly thinking that every bad thing that happened to you is the democrat's fault...will just keep costing you elections and political clout.  

 The first step in correcting a problem, is admitting there's one to begin with. 

The main problems in this country are the ignorance, gullibility, bigotry, irrationality, meanness, selfishness, and apathy of a large part of the population. Admit that, confront that, and maybe we can move on. I hear some good sense on some of these posts, but I've heard more sense out of toddlers or drunks than a too large portion of these posts. I doubt I'll come here often, just discovered posting and trying to learn a thing or too. I think I'll go puke now.

Sgt C,

With all the tare down of her dont you think it is a reasonable response to try to put some of this to light. The pure hatred for the woman is scary. These people who came out and secretly said this are scum.  All I keep thinking is Wow this woman is strong. You know they found she had no blame in the firing of the guy in Alaska. But that was on the last page of the news paper. So you tell me if you think everything they have thrown at this woman is fair?  bo made gaffes they don't even cover them but they were hot after her. Her family has been attacked from day one. But bo is off limits. So maybe I would be more inclined to believe the stuff that is thrown out there if they weren't foaming at the mouths.

Boo, 

This is part of the problem with being a relative newcomer to the national scene.  Nobody knows anything one way or the other. So every piece of information, no matter how speculative becomes 'news'.

You call this woman 'strong.' Sorry, for me strong left as soon as she decided to pursue a VP position that she was woefully unqualified for.  A strong woman would put the needs of her family first, and turn down her '15 minutes of fame' to do the right thing. That's strength.  Anyone can give up their ethical and moral bounderies to be famous.  They have to be willing to accept the consequences of those actions.  The consequences of suddenly flying on the news scene are increased scrutiny by the news media. 

Also Boo, lest you forget..the news media covered plenty (last count on fact-check, snopes, and politifact.org have it at nearly 100) rumors, chain emails, and allegations of Barack Obama, and he's been on the scene for 4 years.  I'll let you decide whether they are true or not. 

Palin's coverage of the news media reminds me of when I used to inspect Marine's barracks rooms: I take a quick peak; if it looks clean and smells clean, I move on. If something's amiss, I start doing some digging.  

In my personal opinion, I think too much of it has been brought to light. I'd personally wish she'd stop talking to the press, focus on running the State, spend time with her family, brush up on her civic lessons...and maybe in 2016, she'd be ready to pursue a national post again. 

Sgt C,

I am confused a little. She can only be a strong woman at home? What qualifications does OB have again. Or shall I say Clinton... He was just a Governor also. But thanks for your point of view.

I am not saying I was ready to follow her into a fire pit, but I would have at least liked to have had a chance to get to know the woman. I don't know for one what the conversations were when she was talking to the little moles And we never will it is a he said she said.

I also wish that Obama would have been a little more forth coming. There is still so much I would like to know about the new President.  Yes I know there is tons of crack pot stuff out there about OB. That is just it I am not ideologue and listen to trivial things.

I am sad that you see her as a fame seeker. But your perception is diferent than mine.  You have to put yourself out there in order to get there...where ever that may be.   Politics The milatary ordinary house wife. You never know until you try. So that is what I meant by seeing her as strong.

I raised my children to do just that. So hopefully one day they look at something that someone is telling them you cant attain that its above you or out of reach. They work a little harder, stand a little taller. We have told our daughters that you can do anything if you work hard enough. It just seems now we are saying but not if we just simply don't like you.

Boo, 

As a mother, you also raised your children to do 'what's right above what is popular,' right? That's my basis for my argument . She threw away her moral decency (as proved by some of the statements she made at her rallies) and allowed herself to be used by the RNC to try to gain votes. All for fame. In turn, she put a lot of stress on her family, and may have harmed herself politically for years to come.   I never said she could only be strong at home. She's obviously a well-respected governer. But she at this time obviously has no place in national politics.  She stepped way outside of her comfort zone, and the professionals made her pay for it.  Put it in perspective: Say you like playing golf, and you're pretty good at it. So you go challenge Tiger Woods to a match. What do you think is going to happen ? You're going to be embarrassed.  And it will be a LONG time before you're taken seriously.  She (by accepting the nomination) set the bar for herself, and failed to meet it. 

Anyone who thought the RNC wouldn't throw her under the 'straight talk express' and back over her a few times before driving off was seriously remiss.  This should've been a foregone conclusion once the race started not to go their way. Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long.  It's the nature of politics: if you lose, someone has to be for blame.  Why not blame the 'newcomer' by leaking her trangressions and paint her as a rogue diva ? (sorry, I'm combining monikers to save space) 

Well said Boo!

Sgt C

Thanks for the golf lesson. I do know why they are attacking her and I know Why everyone was on the Obama train of HOPE and Change. So what I am saying isn't it just popular to pick on her now  the way the  nay sayers are? See I wonder where you come up with she threw her moral decency away. BO didn't have to say anything the minions of the media and the Bush haters did it for him. I call a man who sat in  a Church that spewed hate White  America for 20 years not very good moral decency. Or conversing with a known American terrorist bad moral judgement? So please understand there is mud  on both sides to throw. So in your analogy does that apply to Hilary. I think you are over simplifying.  I did support McCain Palin. I am proud of that.  But I knew from the beginning it was going to be a loss. The minute they started chanting not 8 more years of bush. I also know that Barrack will be elected again no mater who they the RNC puts up.

If you do not like her that is you right. I have great respect for that right. I was hopeful when BO was elected that the minions would move on but my hope was dashed quickly.  I just found these site the other day. and have enjoyed the banter but not the hate.

God bless

All I can say is she's whinning about a few months of being in the spotlight and you people supporting her say "oh, she is so stong to take all that".  i guess you think Hillary is Atlas,she's taken WAYYYYY more than palin for 16 years now, and you don't hear her whinning! 

Jerk????  Stinkers?????  This is from a woman who truely believes she can be a world leader?  She needs to up her vocabulary first.

OK brilliant, Yes as a matter of fact I did hear her whine through her husband an ex President. What would you have a mother of children, Governor, say. Oh I know she could take a note from Emanuele. They can go f..k themselves.  Now that's saying it!! Go back to your huffington post blog where you can have a hay day.....

But, I just read or saw on FOX where 69 percent of Republicans polled, feel she is head of the republican party,......now that is scary......

daisy-369050... 

I do not find that scary, I believe that would be typical.  Republicans seem to celebrate ignorance. They do not seem to be in any way perturbed that a US State Governor in 2008 believes that Africa is a Country. Now that is scary

just how you didn't get "perturbed" that Obama said there are 57 states in the USA

The problem is that we have no memory.

Remember Colin Powell at the UN making his case why it was necessary to go to war? All the documents he had to prove that Sadam had WMD?

  And what I'm saying here didn't come from anonymous sources: the whole world watched that lie on TV.

Five years later, he comes back as the great and honorable hero.

Four years from now Governor Palin maight be back as a hero too. Today - and BO's election showed it - all it takes is a good Marketing strategy and money.

Post 7.4

He at least knows what Continents are.

Post 7.4........he knows what countries are in NAFTA........He even knows what NAFTA means!  Bitter is as Bitter does!!!

Obama should know what NAFTA. The ex-president of his party signed it.

A Free Trade Alliance San Antonio 2005 summary of goals and accomplishments documents the direct involvement of the Bush administration into the development of San Antonio’s inland port NAFTA plans. The following were among the bulleted points:

• Organized four marketing trips to Mexico and China to promote Inland Port San Antonio and met with prospects. Met with over 50 prospects/leads during these trips.

• Continued to pursue cross border trucking by advocating a pilot project with at least two major Mexican exporters as potential subjects. Worked with U.S. Department of Transportation, Dept. of Homeland Security and U.S. Trade Representative on this concept.

• Working with Mexican ports to develop new cargo routes through the Ports of Manzanillo and Lazaro Candenas.

• San Antonio is on the route of the Trans-Texas Corridor planned to be built along I-35 from Laredo, Tex., on the Mexican Border, north through Dallas, en route to the Oklahoma border.

The development of a China-Mexico trade route reflects a fundamental shift since the passage of NAFTA. At the peak in the mid-1990s, there were some three thousand maquiladoras located in northern Mexico, employing over 1 million Mexicans in low-paying, assembly sweat-shops. Today, even Mexican labor is not cheap enough for the international corporations seeking only to maximize profits. According to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, that bubble has burst and the maquiladora activity is down over 25 percent from the peak as the international corporations have found even cheaper labor in China.

The Bush Administration seems on-board with the plan, aiming to increase corporate capital gains in NAFTA markets rather than worrying about the adverse consequences to Mexican low-skilled workers or to the U.S. labor movement that transferring increasing amounts of manufacturing and assembly to China entails.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16077

 You may also want to check into who the original designer of NAFTA was.........Bush Sr.

THANK YOU.....No one ever wants to accept this was basically a GOP deal.

That is some statement, just look back to our history and look at the jerks that occupied that office, hell she is leaps and bounds above Jimmie Carter as president!

Palin will go down in history as the most inept choice for a VP ever. I ALMOST feel sorry for her. NAHHHH

Really?  Were you one of the 50 people that watched Gore's wacky documentary? Even in our public schools, students who are forced to watch it ridiculed his extremism.  Actually the comments I heard were "Epic Movie and Pineapple Express were better examples of reality"

The problem is not with Palin, as she has done good things for us here in Alaska. We know her to be a great and true American for the people. The problem is with the idiots in the lower 48 states, just realising NOW that Alaska is a state in the USA, the largest and richest state in America, that we don't live in igloos and drive dog teams to work. Fools didn't know who Palin is, or what Alaska is about. The media unfairly ripped into her, it was very sexist oriented and a disappointment for most of Alaska. You wonder why Alaska has a VERY LARGE indepentant party. After seeing how you have treated our fellow life-long Alaskan unfairly and demeaned the people of Alaska, you will watch the that party grow!!! Alaskans say *f*U people and the pigs you rode in on. Your ill-informed, continue to be ill-informed by a media that was BOUGHT OUT by Obama 70$ MILLION DOLLARS worth. (Just as Hitler did)I am glad Sarah is back home to run things here, we now sleep better knowing she is and will continue backing the people of Alaska.

You now have your idiot elect, Ah-Bammah Hussien- I can't wait to see your faces when you realize this radical you voted for, and it's already happening, true colors show through. Instead of voting for real American people, you got sold down the road by your TV set into a pop-culture, trained celebrity actor, black radical, who can't make a decent speech after being elected, auh, um, auh, um, ahhh.. then trash Nancy Regan in it also. You all deserve what you get with this "puppet" this "empty suit" this disgrace. Mark my words- you will regret him and he will not "change" anything for the better. When the ding-dong pulls out of Iraq, we will be attacked here for having a weak leader, divided nation and the troops disgraced. You people in the lower 48 are really that stupid, to believe what you see and hear on TV. Sarah Palin is NOT what you've been lead to believe by your lying, biased, media friends.

Your nothing but mushrooms, left in the dark and fed BS. Keep on following that rainbow to the pot of gold... no, really, it's there! LOL.

Sadly, a lot of Alaskans are that bad, Palin screwing up is like Bush screwing up, lots of blind followers. America is like Alaska in that regard, but the good thing is that there actually are eneough intelligent people, not ignorant and full of hate, both in and out of Alaska and the rest of America to fix and maintain this wonderful country. This is why so many people are supporting making it rough on the talk shows that talk like this, preaching hate and ignorance.

Wow... I voted for Palin and McCain but I live in one of the lower 48 states. So after getting bashed by the dems.  A fellow repub rolls a granade into the room... Maybe that is the REAL reason nothing will change in America.  Too many voices and not enough action.  I do think that the Dems are going to learn a hard lesson over the next four years.  But if they actually succeed well then I will probably be voting to relect someone I don't like, but aggreed with his decisions. 

Artic wittness only the iggnorant speak in hate.  Kind of like "stupid is as stupid does"

ArcticWitness

I thought people moved to Alaska to get onto the biggest welfare role in the country and to not pay taxes.

Don't you get paid about $3.3K per a year for every man, woman and child in your family just for living in that frozen sh!thole? No wonder Palin has 5 kids, that works out to about $23K for her family, just for breathing.

Her indifference to the actual job of day-to-day governing in Alaska is well known.  And if you stop and think about it, she wasn't doing much day-to-day mothering of a Down syndrome child who will need adult care all his life. 

If her competence were even 10% of her egotism, she'd be truly admirable, but she wants to be Queen of the World without having to do any of the hard work of becoming capable. 

Well if she decides to take a shot in 2012, one of two things will happen.

A. The Republicans will not choose her as their candidate.

B. She'll see what it's like to lose a second time and Obama will easily skate into his second term.

Personally I think it's best if she just stays in Alaska and runs the state with the "first dude". ~G

From what I have read, Palin actually let the RNC know she was interested in VP.  So, while she may have been flattered, this was not a surprise to Palin...the rest of us were surprised.

Palin had hired a public relations firm to promote her.  She was running for VP for well more than a year before McCain selected her. 

to Sick and Tired:  You failed to mention that NAFTA was an executive order.  Congress did not vote on this.  Clinton's butt hole buddies that  revised the original knew where all the loop-hole were.  They went off into the private sector & made a killing defending NAFTA.  Clinton put hard working American out of the jobs & their houses. 

Jobs lost in 2008: 1.2 million

With 1,179,000 cuts, the economy has lost more than a million jobs in a year for the first time since 2001 - the last time the economy was in a recession. With most economic indicators signaling even more difficult times ahead, job losses will likely deepen and continue through at least the first half of 2009.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/07/news/economy/jobs_october/index.htm

 Since 2006: The Bush Administration seems on-board with the plan, aiming to increase corporate capital gains in NAFTA markets rather than worrying about the adverse consequences to Mexican low-skilled workers or to the U.S. labor movement that transferring increasing amounts of manufacturing and assembly to China entails.

Mr. or Ms. Loveland,

Spelling obviously wasn't your best subject either as noted in your use of "guiness" instead of genius when insulting VP-elect Joe Biden.  Unless you meant to call him a beer, which is just odd. You should probably get a net or dodge the rocks that should be coming towards your glass house.  Didn't you know, that if you live in one, you shouldn't be throwing rocks?  :)

Loveland

Punctuation is obviously not your strong suit, either (Note use of initial capitals, comma, and period).

I wonder if McCain would have been more successful if he had put SUBSTANCE over FORM?

bobr

I completely agree with you.  If one looks at some of the terrifyingly ignorant things she said during the campaign, notably that the VP runs the Senate and makes policy, it is not hard to believe she doesn't know Africa is a continent, or countries in NAFTA.  Both she and McCain told blatant lies about Obama, though she was the most mean-spirited. She seems capable of most anything, including clothes sprees.

She is keeping this alive by continuing to respond.   People keep responding to her, at least I do, because the thought of her in an office of great responsibitity would be disastrous for our country.  

"There's no attorneys" is grammatically incorrect and should be known by a grade school graduate.  Who on earth gave her a college degree, when she is incapable of speaking the English language. One indication of intelligence is the ability to speak one's native tongue correctly.

I can't believe your "scared" of Palin. Your another "mushroom" who watches too much TV. NONE of you know what your talking about. Have you been to Alaska? Can you even point it out on a map? You all only know what you've seen on TV and read in liberal mags about Sarah. Odumma BOUGHT OUT THE MEDIA- and you fell for it, line and sinker. Now, to wait and watch you all flop like fish out of water. It won't be long... Obama is already showing nasty intentions, he can't even make a real speech unless it's on a cue card. LOL. You all get what you deserve for being ill-informed air heads. Alaskans are already laughing at you dumbies. What sell outs! If there was a muti-million dollar commercial about me, you would have fallen for it too, lord, help you people get a thinking brain for yourselves. Let me guess, Oprah said so, right?

So where did Obama get all this money? People without any money gave it to him because they believe he is our best choice. I want him to run his office like his campaign, and for him to get even more cooperation. And I am from Alaska. I know Palin, my mom and her eat lunch together, my family from Wasilla. I know that what the media is saying is true, she is like that, and I don't want her to know that  I know the truth. I am like a wolf, I hide when she flies around me. Most of my friends, tho not all , agree with me.  She begged for the spot, wasn't qualified, and blew it. She is mean, and loves to push people around if they are servants to her, charm them if they are voters, and she does like to shop. No one made her wear those clothes and claim to be just like the common people. She showed her true colors, and their is nothing mean about being aware of it and saying it. Once you get into politics, people HAVE to, and will, judge you. She should never have let people see that side of her. She will need a lot of education if she intends to stay in real politics.

LMAO!! Oprah said so right?... that was a good one, seriously. 

I think I am going to have go with JCE-713543's well written piece there Articwaterass.  Oh and I have been to Alaska too.  I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright (fairbanks) for almost three years.  Got out of there as fast as I could.  Beautifal territory, just don't want to live there.  They had a saying up there as to what is the most poplular thing to do... Get stoned, get drunk, or get religion.  So which one are you?  I "got deployed" LOL... I am still laughing at the Oprah comment, because I am sure it is true to some extent...

well said

To R. Loveland

Stop! your comments are becoming very silly; If you don't have any logical ideas to bring to the table......then it's OKAY to not write anything at all.

thx.

R.Loveland.

Did you ever read Marx's "Das Kapital" or Plato's "The Republic"? Go educate yourself. Or do you just want to be a serf to your old overlords and follow blindly?

The USA has taken a step into the 21st Century and I am happy about it.

From the beginning Palin wanted power for herself, and that scared me.

Some Republicans do NOT get it. They STILL do NOT get it. Palin was (politely put) unqualified...yet she was almost a heartbeat away from the presidency. Many of us, including a lot of moderate Republicans, were scared sh*tless.... Yes, Palin's performances...on live TV for all the world to see...were sickening. What WAS McCain and company thinking? **** Palin 2012 = a second term for Obama.

I quess our expectations for president has really risen to the 10th degree..we expect a god to be in the whitehouse........seems like we have resorted to Greek mythology....well we will see..the world, I hope will watch and question and not take this man blindly as they have up to now!

From the beginning Palin wanted power for herself, and that scared me.

And that makes her different from any other politician in what way?

Well I do think that when you are placed on a ticket with someone like John McCain you may want to establish yourself as a team member before cutting anyone's throat.

JECD,

Whose doing the throat cutting? Governor Palin is being thrown under the bus!

When you begin by saying things like "Todd and I are going to stay in Michigan" when the campaign pulled out,it's undermining to the campaign,that was just the beginning.....Oh, and who the hell is Todd Palin to be ,aking any decisions for the McCain Campaign? He doesn't even have a high school diploma.

• Palin is a graduate of Wasilla High School, Wasilla, Alaska. He has taken some college courses but does not have a degree. 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Palin

• "Todd and I are going to stay in Michigan" I have no idea what you are talking about. Please provide references.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

The majority of the world agrees he was a great man! As do I!

I hope they do arrest and try Bush for murder. I am sure they will find him guilty if they do. I also hope Obama doesn't pardon him. I hope Stevens wins in Alaska, it is still being counted and is very close, and gets fired and goes to jail. We must bring accountability and law back into this government, and our country. I want the best for me, mine, my state, my country, my fellow citizens and my president. I am so sick of all this hatred, ignorance and meanness. Thats why the country is in so much trouble, it is sick, you see it on here just like you see those wanting and trying to heal it. So are you healer or destroyer?

I hope they do arrest and try Bush for murder. I am sure they will find him guilty if they do. I also hope Obama doesn't pardon him. I hope Stevens wins in Alaska, it is still being counted and is very close, and gets fired and goes to jail. We must bring accountability and law back into this government, and our country. I want the best for me, mine, my state, my country, my fellow citizens and my president. I am so sick of all this hatred, ignorance and meanness. That's why the country is in so much trouble, it is sick, you see it on here just like you see those wanting and trying to heal it. So are you healer or destroyer?

So what the hell? Bush never murdered anyone. He gave orders and they were followed. Hatred of Bush I think you told us where you stand on that. I too want my Pres Elect to do  a good job. I for one am not ranking on him. Because I could There is allot that I don t get CHANGE what does that mean??????  Hope never lost it. So tell my friend where does this go from here?

I am don't think Pres. Bush needs to go to jail for anything.  If you are going to try him for war crimes well then you need to take all of the Senators and congressmen too, also send the CEO's of the companies that profitted from the war.  Remember you silly angry people the President cannot make a single decision on his own... 

Ditto hotrodwilly.

Amen, brother

A "rising star"? Yeah right. She makes Bush look like a rocket scientist. ~G  

i love how she is not afraid to say what she thinks!  I can't imagine putting up with all of that criticism. 

great post mary!

Well said, Mary

Remember that 47% of voters said she was not prepared to be VP

BUT 45% said Obama was not prepared to be PRESIDENT!

I have yet to see any demonstration that hints toward the idea that Palin actually "thinks".

Personally, I want my president and vice president---of either party---to have a certain level of intelligence and common sense. McCain, Biden, and Obama (IMHO) qualified....but Palin missed the mark. Big time. *********** This has NOTHING to do with party affiliation and everything to do with love of America. *********** The woman is NOT capable and it shows.

I listened to her Couric interview again last night...and I cringed. She was that bad...that unknowlegeable and out of her league.

Where are your values my friend?  Rising star?  really!?

Shes the type of person (and bush) that made me stop being a republican, though I guess I was never a verry good one in the first place.  I took the "small government" idea in a more libertarian light and aren't a christian.
Either way even the possibility of a Palin regime, along with what she might do simply horrifies and disgusts me.

Mary -

I agree that Palin is the best that the Republican Party has to offer. 

I hope the Republican right wing zealots rally behind her and keep her as their standard bearer for years to come.  That is almost like insurance for the Democratic Party continuing in power for an additional 4 to 8 years.

Yea Sarah Palin - go girl.

Go Sarah!!!!  A guarantee Barack Obama will win again.

Sarah Palin 2012......Peace through superior fellatio

No, that would of been Bill.

SickNTired,

"would of been"????

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people... it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill 1806-1873 British philosopher

Yeah I know......

I could not get the "edit" button to work.

But thanks for calling me stupid!

Sorry, but she did call them jerks, plain as day.  Go back and watch the interview again.

oh.. she is just full of sour grapes... give her a break...LOLOLOL

Obviously, he needs the funds to clean up the mess left behind from what you've been spreading.

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Call it public sanitation.  Communities do it all the time.  Keeps down disease and other nasty health "gotchas" coming from e. collie eye, or as we like to call it up here in the north country, "dog poo poo gone wild".  As Govenor, I instituted, well, you know, heck, a public health policy, by golly, you betcha, err, what?, oh.

Shout out to Ms. Johnson's 3rd class:  Remember kids, "If he poops, you must scoop".

Anybody wanna buy used linens?  They're on eBay now!  I need the money.

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Pretty much sums it up...Warning!  Warning!  Brain Fart Emission deteted.  Take evasion action.  This not a drill...

Can my nephew have some ($$)? Just a little? He is only working 22 hours or so a week because they cut his hours. (He is disabled and can't get a better job..)

R Loveland you're just like the rest, a sore loser.  Take the sheet off your head.  Its a new day.

Jirby,

Well said. It is quite obvious from the grammatical and spelling errors that Loveland is likely asking, "Would you like some fries with that?"

For an Eagle you certainly don't soar like one. Bush has messed up this country to the nth degree and yet your sorry behind hasn't given Obama a chance to mess up. Tell those neo nazi friends of yours that. At least have a real reason.

eagle one

If you think Obama is dumb, it says a whole lot more about you than him.

eagle 1,

Are you suggesting that Palin is more intelligent than Obama?

Really, is that what you're doing?

Seriously, Palin is smarter than Obama?

So what you're saying is Palin is smart and Obama is dumb?

Seriously????????????????????????????????????????????

Obama is an empty puppet.  It just thrills me to see him screwing up already. No surprise here. "Ahhh-umm-aweeehhh-ummm, Nancy Regan." He is very stupid and it is showing. LOL. What a complete moron.

Assuming does not = correct answers

For those of you who assumed "change."

I realize that there are a lot of people who are bitter about the election, and some just need to vent.  But what I don't understand is why people want Pres. Elect Obama to fail.  It's our country at stake, and we need success, no matter who is president.  So when you wish for him to fail, you're really wishing for our country to fail.  Time to put aside the pettiness on both sides and get to work trying to fix this mess we're in!

Jazz  That is an excellent comment.

  Your comments about being a Christian etc., conflict with your several of your earlier comments and language. Judge not ...

Exactly!

Hear!

The clock is a jerk.

RNoel

LMAO! You just made my day!

"Palin was grossly under qualified to be VP"...Please...Obama met minimum requirements to be a Presidential candidate....he met the age requirement and was born in the USA.  I believe ACORN community organizer was on his resume....not something I would be I would be proud of.

Obama...no matter what else you think of him...can put together proper English sentences. He can answer questions. He knows what he is talking about. You can hate him and what he stands for, but he can take care of himself. ******************* The rest of us are NOT anti-Palin because she is a Republican....but anti-incompetence and against somebody so "stupid" that could have been a heartbeat away from the presidency.

I do NOT agree with McCain's politics...BUT I will be the first to admit that he would probably have made a reasonably qualified, competent, and more moderate Republican American president. I could have accepted him without gagging and pulled together with the Republicans as an American who loves her country. But dimwit Palin? You betcha...NOT!

http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm

Terry-63549,

I believe U.S. Senator, Lawyer, Harvard Law School Graduate, and the President of the Harvard Law Review are also on his resume among other things - not to mention President of the United States.

WHAT'S ON YOURS?

George W. Bush went to:

 Yale...BA in History

Harvard...MBA

What's your point?

SickNTired,

My point is that Barack Obama is imminently more qualified than Sarah Palin - so is George W. Bush for that matter.

What's yours?

Sarah was not running for President. That is the point.

There were gaffs on both sides of the aisle. I won't go through the litany of he said, she said. Had I been Sarah I simply would have said in public; The aides were unprofessional and it would be unprofessional of me to give them credence by discussing them.Never give the enemy ammunition to use now or later.

Should Sarah make a run in the next election she will have 4 years to prepare. She now knows or should, what is involved in this game we call national politics. For now take a page from McCain and get back to the job at hand.

Barak I don't like you, or your policies, but to wish you ill or hope you stumble would only mean I wish for my country to falter. Like McCain my country does come first. There will be dark days ahead,  you will be tested by those who do not love our country. You are intelligent, but that alone is not enough. May God guide you with wisdom and temperance to face our toughest challenges yet to come in leading OUR country.

Obama - put himself through Harvard and graduated with honors

Bush - daddy got him in Yale and he barely passed

Obama - president of Harvard Law Review

Bush - Head Cheerleader

Nuff Said.

Very well said. What goes around came around. But Obama did not call her a jerk.

Exactly!!

A Gay man, that has people murdered....did you say pamela purse???  That has clouds of suspesion surrounding him.....did you say pamela purse???  That will have every terriorst clamoring at our door????  The American people have been fooled. 

R.Crockett are you responding to a different post and some how it made it on to this one?  "Gay man that has people murdered"  Where in the hell did you come up with that one ?  LOL  Ok so Pamela puss was a bit hard on the "Mavericks" but most dems are... Palin also gave them TONS of material.  She turely was not qualified for the position even I could see that as a Republician.

After 8 long years, all we want is coherent sentences.  Is that too much to ask?

And as far as the good Govenor's passive-agressive behavior goes, we do not fear it, or misunderstand it.  Passive-aggressives, no matter where they come from, are all basically the same.  And very predictable.

So BFD, America caught her doing the passive-aggressive dance, and y'all weeping and wailing, blaming the media because she got outed.

In regards to your throw-away question:  Yes, I'd take it, but, I wouldn't be whining in public that those big meanies weren't being nice to me, lol.  Change hurts.  It goes with the turf.  Don't go, if you cannot stand the return fire.  Just stop whining for frack's sakes.  You cannot reform anything, if you also want everybody to love you.  They won't, whoevers' interests you attack, will come back at you for blood.  Toughen up your skin.  Just stop whining.  Damn....  Big meanies were mean to me.  WAAAAAAAA.

Every real reformer or change agent already knows this.  That's one of the many ways we knew she was a poser.  Sorry, but you cannot fake it.

What did you expect?  That they would greet you with open arms and welcome you as their liberator, showering you with flowers?  Oh, sorry, wrong meme, lol.

I would never go into politics...too many skeletons in the closet that are sooo easy to find. However, even with a pristine background and plenty of qualifications, I would not want the job. I enjoy my privacy and peace of mind.

Palin is acting more and more like an airheaded bimbo....she ENJOYED tearing down Obama...yet she starts whining when the Reps turn on HER and do the same thing. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

**************** I can speak in coherent sentences....with more basic knowledge than Palin...and the capacity to find out what I need to know and when. (I have a GED with half a year of college and I am working class...so I am hardly an elitist.)

twobees,

do you have kids? complain about trig being up after bedtime. If that's important, I remember two little girls up after bedtime on election night. they were up after bedtime the night pe obama made his acceptance speech.

If you have something to say, say it, don't just come here and talk.

JRT, yes, I certainly do have children, three, 6 grandchildren and 1 g/grandson.  My comment about Trig is because  he is a special needs baby and should have a regular bed time and schedule. Should not be dragged around being exposed to strangers who may have God knows what type of diseases.   Obama's daughters are much older and am sure they have a later bed time and are not Down Syndrome children.  I did say it and didn't just come to talk, although it seems freedom of speech is something you do not believe in except for yourself.  As for my children, when they were younger they were in bed at a decent hour, likewise, my grandchildren.  And thank's be to God they were all born healthy and not medically challenged.  I am blessed.  Thank you for allowing me to speak. 

Twobees,........You got it! those children were used as political PROPS! Shameful.

Twobees,

You are right! And what was all her nonsense about "Obama and Biden using expensive hairspray" about?

It is just amazing how republicans cling to every little straw they can find.

Another thing... I live in deep red Wyoming and have come to experience the mean-spirited people here already before the  election even began.

Yeah Obama didnt use his kids for a prop to show him as a family man? 

what shes supposed to ignore her kids special needs. She knows how difficult they are?

I love all you moms out there continuing to tear her down. Are you the same women that would find that girl walking around alone in the hallways in high school and tear her apart too.  WAY TO GO GIRLS your unity is astounding! or are you the women who when women's lib was going strong you you told all stay at home moms they weren't as good as you because they didn't have a career. Well she has one and I kept hearing go back to you kids and be their mom. Goes to show you will follow anybody....GRRRR

You are sexist. I say men stay home and watch the kids, they shouldn't be aloud to run ANYTHING! They can't even run thier own homes! Don't forget to clean the toilet you barbaric, women hating fools. Is my dinner on the table winches? Here is the kid, now do diapers. Men need to step down, they have NEVER proved to do anything positive for the nation. So if you are bagging on Sarah about how she needs to stay home and cooky your little dinners and bake cookies, your an idiot, bigot and old.

Todd does a fine job where he's at. With the kids.

Well Arctic, that was frosty but you make a point. I'm not a feminist I am an independent woman in party and in practice, before affirmative action or woman's rights. Everyone needs to take their OWN affirmative action and stand up for their OWN rights. Never mind this coat tail ride, it only ruins the cut of the cloth. Sarah did that and now she's being castigated for it. Typical busiore BS. (whoops, that was frosty)

Yes, she is inexperienced, and no, she is not suave. But give her 4 years and that moose milk will be champagne,and dead wolf will be dead on sable. If I'm wrong you ravers will have nothing to worry about. After all why worry? You think she's a loony hick?

Arctic, say warm. I live in the great north east where one turns blue when they change from a red blooded American to; I want the government to run my life, pick up the tab, and  provide for my welfare, well being, and green stamps to happiness. 

She wants to come back in 2012......she doesn't get it.....and scares the h*ll out of most of us.....

Thats what allot of people said about Gore but he still wont shut up!

"Cowboy politics" please ....all that writing and that is the best you can do....when Obama is "Black Liberation Theology"....

Hell ya!  Can we dance with your dates?

Republicans' are the people from Lincolns party who went to war with the south and freed the slaves...Republicans are the ones who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe in and they are the ones who kept the union from imploding on itself.......If the Dems had there way we would be two diffrent countries....the North and the South....

If you study history or know anything about history you would know that the least  popular presidents of their time are now looked at as the most brilliant insightful presidents...to namme a few....  Lincoln, Roosevelt, Reagan....and the most popular presidents of their time have been seen as weak and a do nothing presidents     ..namely..Johnson, Carter and Clinton...

Why do you sopose that is...It's called twisted media......and people our media is more twisted then ever.....and you are all twisted to beleive 1/2 the stuff they dish out..

A note to McCain and Palin. "If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas." Since Palin and McCain implied that Obama was a Muslim and a terrorist when they knew very well he was neither I don't have a lot of sympathy if they or their supporters call each other names true or otherwise. The only thing that held the Republicans together was their violent hatred of Democrats. Actions have consequences.

Terry, I agree 10X's over and I'd vote that statement as such, if I were with ACORN.

EEE Haw Joe, you bray like a true donkey. You foolish man. If you live in the west just say thank you to those pioneers and cowboys with guts, a spirit of independence, self reliance, and motivation. It beats the the welfare mentality of socialism hands down. 

BTW Lucky dog, camels have fleas too and they spit.

Your comment ".... Calling names true or otherwise." An over polite man is usually hiding some mighty impolite ideas. What's wrong with calling a spade a spade? The truth doesn't always come dressed for dinner.

Just consider this, after you've judged him so harshly before he's even taken office. What if he undo's some of that 'bush_league' presidenr criminal acts he perpetuated on this country. What's going to be your excuse then? Or are you just hiding out on Ruby Ridge with the rest of your ayran brothers.

Melloman,......Good for you,ROTFLMAO!!!

"Stalanist jerk"  Where do you get that from Mike S.'s post?  I assume that when you refer to the messiah, you are referring to Jesus Christ, because no one, other than stupid Republicans, have been referring to Mr. Obama in that way.

We have had 8 years and more of unfettered Capitalism as carried out by the Republicans - and we can see what a success that has been.  Perhaps some socialism might be beneficial to the majority of the citizens of this once fine country.

Call me dumb, but I, as a German, don't understand what all this fear about socialism is. The German SPD party stands for "social political party" and the CSU stands for "christian social party". Does that make Germany a communist country?

Well, I lived there for 39 years and was allowed to speak my mind and do anything (non criminal) I wanted to do. Also, there I have never experienced the kind of hate I have seen here in the US. So, please, don't confuse socialism with communism.

Correction! SPD = Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands = social democtratic party of Germany. CSU =  Christlich-Soziale Union = christian social union.

Farrakhan, not a republican, referred to him as the messiah long ago with the big O's followers fainting in the streets.  Get used to it Libs, we are going to pay you guys back in spades for all the "not our president" crap you gave us over the last eight years.I see now that anybody who dares criticize the anointed one will be labeled a racist, how nice....And please dont get me started on the cradle to grave socialism of western Europe, there is a reason we are a hyperpower and you are not(well, at least we used to be...)

regarding Post#23.7

You right wing nut jobs with your "fair and balanced" NeoCon odjectives crack me up it is hard to believe there could be people as stupid as you on the planet until I saw your Poster Child-Sarah Palin. You are the same crowd that says "Remember 911" when referring to the Iraq War when even your Moronic Commander in chief admits there was no connection.

I notice you referrenced the FAKE video that one of the GOP bots was plastering all over the vine election day. You bore me. Try something new, here is some ideas:

Obama wants us all to eat unborn babies, but only the christian ones because the Islamic ones taste funny.

Obama was responsible for the attack on Pearl Harbor and helped navigate the one of the planes that struck the WTC.

Obama wants to enslave the white population for 100 yeasr.

And my favorite Obama has strong ties to Acme, the very same company that has brought sooo much greif to Wile E. Coyote, a true american hero.

After eight years of "You are either with us or you are with the terrorist" crap, I am fed up with you and your parties BS. This is our time now and you are irrelevant.

Cheyenne, 39 years?  How was it back before that big wall came down?  Did everyone in Germany feel as safe and free as you did back then?  You say everyone was okay as long as they did non-criminal things.  Who got to decide what was criminal?  I'm guessing then that you never had the desire to read a bible -because that would have been criminal. Oh yeah, do you remember who was in office here when the wall came down?

No thanks to socialism, or its twin sisters, liberalism and communism.

average mom,

wow....so that is how Republicans twist and turn everything in order to avoid the truth. Still, I'm going to answer your questions.

It seems to me that you confuse West Germany with East Germany which, by the way, was called "DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik = German Democratic Republic". So, East Germany was called democratic although it really was communistic. When the people from East Germany came to West Germany for the very first time, they couldn't believe the wealth we had and thought it was all fake. In fact, they had never seen anything like it.

Yes, everyone felt safe and free in West Germany.

"Who got to decide waht was criminal?" What kind of question is that? Of course the law, just like here in the US.

Why would you guess that I never read the bible? I lived near Munich/Bavaria (which is in the southeast part of Germany) and most people there, including myself, are catholics. The political party there is called CSU = christian social union and is a sister party of the CDU = christian democratic union which represents the rest of the country.

Again, you are confusing former East Germany with former West Germany by saying that it would have been criminal to read the bible.

Makes me wonder where you get your informations from. Oh, and I'm a woman, too.

Yeah the Republicans are acting like a bunch of whiney babies now -- pointing fingers everywhere but in the direction they should be pointing. This behavior will probably continue for the next 8 years -- actually it never stopped - that's why Bush has not had to answer for ANYTHING he has done YET - they're now blaming Clinton for the economic crisis and for 9-11. This is precisely why I will never vote for one of them, and they wonder why the word "CHANGE" was so attractive. Almost any change is better than them. I'm tired of lining the billfolds of fat, rich, old white men with my hard-earned dollars. I'm a middle-aged white lady, by the way.

You libs talk with hate and anger.  It is unbelievable how you try to make this hate and anger the Conservatives fault.  You should take time to act a little more civil.  To disrespect our president is unamerican. 

For how intelligent you try to sound it amazes me how your statements usually lack any logical merit.

Don't you need to be in California turning over cars because gays can't marry there anymore?

To disrespect our president is unamerican? Who says so? He's a retard. Admit it. He can't even speak without stumbling over the big words. I never voted for him. Did you? Thanks a lot. Act civil? What is uncivil about criticizing the bumbling idiots who have been "leading" us for 8 years? I think it's our civic duty to speak out and to refuse to be silenced. In case you didn't know it - it's still a free country and if you don't like my comments why don't you just ignore them? What exactly is illogical about my statement? If you're going to make direct comments like that you should at least be specific. I must have touched a raw nerve with you somewhere.     BTW - I'm not angry - I'm elated that we will not be under the Republicans anymore.

Cheyenne, I am of German decent, my Grandfather left Germany and a wealthy family at 14 because he wanted to be an American and because he believed in Democracy. He fought his own brother in WWl.  He went on to become a captain in the US Navy. He was never a hyphenated American. He never believed in socialism. He believed you earned your way. I have friends in Germany who hate socialism as much as they hated Nazism.

You say you never saw such hate as you have here. You were fortunate you did not grow up during or right after  WWll nor were you an East German.

If you think socialism is so great why did you leave the fatherland?

Jo,

As to why I left Germany (which I don't call "fatherland"!!)  I fell in love with an American and married him.

I, too, believe that you have to EARN your way which was my experience in Germany, and I'm absolutely against Nazism.

My point here is that the major German parties have the word socialism in it while former East Germany was called democratic. Do you see what I'm trying to say? Again, socialism is NOT communism.

It is amazing and also shocking how some Americans can believe that Germany is a communist country.

I have to agree with JCE's comment and I won't come back to this site, way too much crap.

Cheyenne,   You didn't specify what part of Germany you were from, but were talking about how wonderful socialism has been there for the past 39 years.  It was my point that for the East Germans, life pretty much sucked prior to 1989, and is still pretty rough.  Yes, East Germany was Communist, and yes most leaders use the term "Democratic" to sell that to the people on their way down that slippery slope.

Germany does have a lot to be proud of, as people on both sides of the Wall bravely rose up to defeat Communism. But, they had to acknowledge there was something to defeat.  Germany, west more than east, has developed a thriving economy and military -but it is not due to socialism.  West Germany was socialist, but after the unification, isn't Germany a Republic now?  Similar to ours but much more liberal?  Even so, the poverty rate and unemployment in the eastern portion is still (20 years later) much higher than the west.  So again, it's maybe not the ideal either.  BTW, the presence of our military bases not only has been a huge stimulus to your economy, but also your national security -which allows Germans to spend more money on their own infrastructure.

I am truely sorry that you have seen bitterness and hatred here.  Sadly, there are a few wackos everywhere -especially on these posts -but for the most part we are a wonderful country of unlimited opportunity that many of us defend out of love and respect, not fear.  The beauty is that we are free to disagree, but the reality is that some do not have the dignity to do it appropriately.  Welcome to the USA. 

OK Cheyenne, I was being snide I know it's not the fatherland any longer. I am well aware of the differences between Nazism, Communism, and Socialism. I know what a Democratic Republic is. It is how we have built the USA upon. 

Because of the corrupt greed of evil selfish people has been allowed does not mean we disavow what has worked very well for the US when applied correctly. We are not Germans, British, Canadians etc... who follow the doctrine of a socialistic country. Re-distributing wealth is not the answer, creating opportunity for acquiring an honest living and honest wealth is. It's not Democracy that isn't working it's the government not doing the job it is handsomely paid to do.

Every man in my family has served our country, many who wish to be considered leaders in this great country have not. They have served themselves. We have been enablers by electing and re-electing the dolts. I have served in public office and turned down my salary. I believe as George Washington did; you serve for the honor, do your job, and then return to private life.

I harbor no animosity to legal citizens who work hard, pay their taxes and take care of their families; only to those who want to suck off them. Socialism is the first step in that downward spiral.

charlott

You didn't touch anything with me.  Idiotic people like you never upset me.  I did make a specific comment.  Looks like you are the one that is emotional.  Your right it is a free country - which means I get to make my comments too.  The freedom to speak out does not stop when a liberal stops talking -I know you thought it did, sorry.

Yes you are very disrespectful to our President - you have very little if any understanding of how difficult a job that is to do.  A job that you would stand zero chance of doing, but of course you have all the answers from you little desk with an internet connection.

We will now see what OBAMA can do.  We know what he said.  We know what he said does not match with what he has done in his past.  They say that the office can make the man.  I hope that is true in this case. 

She can't answer questions...she can't put together an understandable sentence. Is THAT being up front and honest? Tell me, what did she REALLY say on anything? The economy and bailout, McCain's voting record, foreign affairs.... I will be decent and willing to listen if anybody can tell me HER positions on vital issues...using archived videos of her saying them in her own words....

And thats what cost McCain the election.

No. McCain cost McCain the election

Logically speaking I would agree with you. 

And I thought it was my bad English that I couldn't understand what Palin was talking about.

Cheyenne no she spoke a language all her own....and only a 'select' few could understand it.

Rest of us heard nothing but maddening, frustrating, AHA, jibberish

GoldenGateMami_Susi,

Thank you. Already considered taking English classes ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bull! She may be female but she doesn't act like a lady. She also asked for the attention when she agreed to run as VP; she basked in it. And don't blame Obama's side, they ran a much cleaner campaign than did the Repubs.

She came across from the beginning as a clueless dimbulb; Gee, what does the VP do? She was (is) an embarrasment to any intelligent American. And don't question my patriotism, you might get both barrels.

The angry Repubs may want to listen to McCain and back our president. His concession speech brought him back some much-needed respect; his backers should take heed.

Our country is in a cluster-situation and we need to go in a new direction. Good luck Mr. Obama; do well.   Bill Tobin  

bill Tobin, well said!!!

I agree. She did it to herself.

Self inflicted wounds are most times very fatal!

Mary Miami's comment is the typical "denial of reality" thinking by right wing knee jerk Republicans. If there is a problem, try to blame the Democrats or the "liberals" or the "media" rather than look at the objective evidence. They are the types that stole something or broke something when they were in school then blamed someone else. This is why they don't ever seem to "get it." Good joke, except that this is unfortunately how they think...

Nei mary don't go there.  This story comes from one of the magazines (New York Times)  maybe, they're journalists were allowed to tag along as long as they didn't report everything till after the election, there's already a book out I think.

Would it make you feel better if it also came from Fox, which it did? But, let's let the woman leave. I am tired of hearing about her. I agree with the other poster. Both Obama and McCain have asked that we become united in overcoming our current problems.

No one on the McCain campaign staff has even hinted it wasn't one of their own.  They know who said it and they know its true.  There are several sources for the Diva behavior, not just this story.  All narcissistic people are a thread away from being sociopaths.  Sarah Palin is just that thread away.  Before you all go ballistic look up sociopath, I'm not calling her a serial killer.

This is old news, and hopefully it will stay that way and we have seen the last of Sarah Palin in national elections.

You sound like you have the inside scoop on everything!  Maybe you should make the news and disclose those nameless insiders! 

All Presidential hopefuls are narcissistic, you should look that up.  However, most are not pathalogical liars a thread away from being sociopaths, as I surmise you must be.

You are so wrong. Alaska is glad to have our govenor home and here looking out for her fellow Alaskans. Actually we know what happened, so keep spewing what you have seen on TV and in liberal mags. Alaska is laughing at you. We now know, that you down there know, Alaska is actually a part of the USA! Guess, what? We don't live in igloos  or drive dog teams to work! WOW! I bet most of you can't even point it out on a map! Well, mabey now, thanks to Sarah!

You have all been mis-lead and ill-informed about who and what Sarah Palin is and stands for. She cleaned most of the criminals out while in service to the people of Alaska, this did not sit well with most politicians here, or in Washington. (GO figure)

Sold down the road by a man who bought you line and sinker, through the media. Sound like Hitler? You all get what you deserve! Don't wonder why Alaska has a HUGE Independent Party. We would like to separate ourselves from the likes of weaklings and commercial sell-outs. Sarah would have never been a puppet for anyone, tells it like it is and is for the people's interest. Most Americans can't hack that in a person, especially from a strong Alaskan woman. Or rather, any woman. Look what happened to Hillary! Sarah Palin is a good person at heart, it is unfotunate what has happened to her. The media is nothing but a puppet for the top paying handout. You ding-dongs fell for it! -and still can't see strait.

You are terrible people, full of yourselves, who bash Sarah. She is actually a very funny and light hearted person, if you don't take her words out of context and twist it into what you want others to believe it is. The media got nowhere here when they arrived in Alaska and they were treated badly. They rebelled against Sarah for the treatment they recieved from Alaskans, who they were asking 50,000 dollars for any BAD info on Sarah, her KIDS and Husband. Alaskans threw them out on thier dumb arses and they were hurt, as it cost them $$ to get here and get NOTHING. We actually threw out more than one idiot reporter and crew asking for negative information, then laughed at them through the windows. (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE YOU MORONS) I'd like to see those idiots come back here now. They wouldn't make it 5 yards. They are more than JERKS, they were and are ARSEWHOLES!!! Time for an "Alaskan fishing trip", with our special custom made concrete halibut boots, all media is invited for free! Do America a favor and sign up today.

Artic,

You know more about what really happened than the rest of the haters on this page. I support Ms. Palin and am horrified at the treatment she is getting from the lower 48. Especially the women down here.

You tell her for me...........You go girl!